Moment of Zen

E6: The AI moment, AI vs crypto: a heated debate with Amjad Masad, Flo Crivello, and Nathan Labenz

Episode Summary

Amjad Masad (@Amasad), Flo Crivello (@Altimor) and Nathan Labenz (@Labenz) join us for a heated debate on the AI moment, Crypto in an AI world, and a comparison of AI and crypto's relative value. (0:00) Preview of the debate (0:30) Sponsor (1:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution (3:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI (8:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment (15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change? (23:45) AI’s effect on coding (34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped (35:00) Bounties (53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in? (57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate (1:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years” (1:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism (1:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality (1:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups? (1:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto (1:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism (1:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE (1:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down (1:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective (1:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective (1:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view (1:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis (1:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum (1:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl (1:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions

Episode Notes

0:00) Preview of the debate

(0:30) Sponsor

(1:00) Nathan introducing our new upcoming AI podcast, The Cognitive Revolution

(3:45) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI

(8:20) Amjad’s take on the AI moment

(15:00) Is chatGPT a step function change?

(23:45) AI’s effect on coding

(34:40) Amjad believes AI is underhyped

(35:00) Bounties

(53:15) What AI companies should VCs invest in?

(57:30) Antonio/Flo pre-debate

(1:00:15) “All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years”

(1:01:00) Antonio’s AI skepticism

(1:05:20) the inflection point is a jump in generality

(1:06:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?

(1:14:30) Segue into AI and crypto

(1:20:00) Flo’s crypto skepticism

(1:23:40) Antonio and Flo HEATED DEBATE

(1:26:30) Dan tries to calm everybody down

(1:27:00) Dan’s crypto perspective

(1:29:30) Antonio’s crypto perspective

(1:31:50) Amjad’s Bitcoin maximalist view

(1:34:55) Amjad’s hilarious rant on crypto ponzis

(1:38:00) Dan and Amjad debate Bitcoin/Ethereum

(1:40:00) AI vs Web 3 brawl

(1:52:32) Amjad’s AI predictions